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Arturo02 · Nov 24, 2005, 06:22 AM // 06:22

no!!!!

well yes on the HOF part of course.

I think when it is all said and done. Brady will have numbers similar to Aikman but more touchdowns if he plays at the level he is playing at for another five years. And if he doesn't play at that level every year but then adds on another 2-4 years of play he will have 30k+ passing, over 200 tds, and around 3000 completions.

Brady also has a shot at Aikman's record for winningest QB in a decade. Wilki says he has 61 wins as a starter but I cannot confirm this as wilki is open source. But I would say it has to be at least 50-55 at the minimum. And there is another half a decade left to add more wins.

jules · Nov 25, 2005, 05:45 PM // 17:45

Too all of you Vick haters

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/9059303

I'm not saying Vick's the second coming of Steve Young but he is getting better, and has a lot of potential. But yes I have to agree he is overrated at the moment.

conker · Nov 25, 2005, 05:59 PM // 17:59

jules, vick sucks, end of story, his qb rating is below average, how is he the next coming of steve young?

jules · Nov 25, 2005, 06:20 PM // 18:20

I'm just saying he doesn't outright suck. Just playing devil's advocate.

Also, I didn't say he was the second coming of Steve Young, that was just an analogy that a lot of Vick fanboys use.

Finch · Nov 25, 2005, 07:02 PM // 19:02

Man, how did Ron Dayne get so good with the Broncos? When he was on the Giants, a girl scout could touch him and he'd fall over...

conker · Nov 25, 2005, 07:26 PM // 19:26

lol thats true, but he was still fast in the giants, also that 54 yard run that eventually won it for the broncos was all the offensive lines doing, not him.

Aracos79 · Nov 26, 2005, 06:40 PM // 18:40

Anybody can run well for the Broncos. I don't know if it's their blocking scheme, their practice regimen, training, or what... but Mike Shanahan seems to be able to plug any "joe schmo" back there and turn them into 100-yard per game guys. You watch... this offseason they are going to trade Mike Andersen or Tatum Bell for a bunch of draft picks to some team thinking they are actually GOOD and the Broncos will just plug another warm body back there and keep rolling.

jules · Nov 26, 2005, 07:41 PM // 19:41

Yeah it seems to be the O-line... every RB who plays in that system seems to put up good numbers. Either that or their GM can actually forsee the future.

Finch · Nov 26, 2005, 11:19 PM // 23:19

Well didn't Reuben Droughns (sp) who plays for the Browns, used to play for the Broncos? I dont know about that Browns offensive line, but that running back is a beast.

TheEPIC · Nov 26, 2005, 11:27 PM // 23:27

Yeah, well Rueben just runs people over. He definately is a power back. So anytime hen gets any sort of field to run on, someone is going to get run over.

Oh, and notice how we don't hear all too much about Clinton Portis anymore?

Finch · Nov 27, 2005, 12:47 AM // 00:47

Very true about the Clinton Portis part, even though I think the Skins have a rather decent offensive line. Tommarow I'm watching the Seahawks and the Giants game; hoping Shaun doesn't run over my whole team... I guess we'll see.

Guillaume De Sonoma · Nov 27, 2005, 12:51 AM // 00:51

Does anyone remember the game the 9ers had. The one with 1 completed pass. RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing redicouls (sp?) anyways I have been a 9ers fan since i was born from the time of Steve Young and the other greats to this dead team in a very slow rebuiling stage.

jules · Nov 27, 2005, 01:11 AM // 01:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guillaume De Sonoma

Does anyone remember the game the 9ers had. The one with 1 completed pass. RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing redicouls (sp?) anyways I have been a 9ers fan since i was born from the time of Steve Young and the other greats to this dead team in a very slow rebuiling stage.

Well it happens... Just watch the Packers from this year on and into the post-Favre era.

Guillaume De Sonoma · Nov 27, 2005, 01:20 AM // 01:20

Yeah I want to see some old Elway tapes after watching thursday's game

Finch · Nov 27, 2005, 01:35 AM // 01:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guillaume De Sonoma

Does anyone remember the game the 9ers had. The one with 1 completed pass. RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing redicouls (sp?) anyways I have been a 9ers fan since i was born from the time of Steve Young and the other greats to this dead team in a very slow rebuiling stage.

The 49ers need a starting quarterback to be able to get anywhere...Im not sure about the situation of their quarterbacks, but they need some type of QB to bring faith back to the offense. At least they have Brandon Lloyd who makes spectacular catches...

Guillaume De Sonoma · Nov 27, 2005, 01:41 AM // 01:41

yeah but most of the greats are going or gone

Elway, YOung, Montana, even Farve gone. And Marino best QB ever gone

Finch · Nov 27, 2005, 01:47 AM // 01:47

Peyton is sure turning into a great... i can tell you that now.

James the crazy · Nov 27, 2005, 01:52 AM // 01:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by ty3c

my fav game with the colts was when the colts where down 35 to the bucs and they came back in less then 2 mins to win it! i loved that game the colts ruled and that was when they where 5-0 last year or a few yrs back.

never mention that game again!

ive been a bucs fan since i was 7 and thats probably my least favorite game of all-time.

anyways....
i think the colts have a good a chance as ever to go undefeated this year and i still like dungy despite the unmentional game that ty3c was talking about.
as for the NFC..... GO BUCS!

conker · Nov 27, 2005, 01:58 AM // 01:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finch

Peyton is sure turning into a great... i can tell you that now.

i dont think so, to be great like joe montana or dan marino, u cant average 1 interception per game which he is doing, and u have to throw for atleast the top 5 most yards in the nfl. Brett favre is going to be one of the greats, sure he sucks now but few years back, he was godly, in my opinion better then marino. He threw a 99 yard pass, hes now in the 50000+ yards club(only 3 qbs in it now, Jon Elway( i think), dan marino, and brett favre. he also is the only qb to be named mvp 3 times

Finch · Nov 27, 2005, 04:10 AM // 04:10

Yes... but theres still room to improve since hes only in his late 20s. Also being a great, you have to be apart of a winning team, and Peyton is apart of and leading a winning team obviously. Of course he will never be a great if he does not win the big game, but we'll see.